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A woman who feels the need to have her man clean is a disgrace of a woman IMO (helping out in a pinch sure, but def not on reg). Straight up told her that if that was her expectation of me, then there is the door. Now if you mean that thats culture, then we're perpetuating the tradition that mem are cavemen and ought to outdo and crush competition to be more deserving (covert term for stronger and more physically fit) for reproduction.

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I recently went back for 3 months and LOADS of women want to get married to move the hell out of that country, making me a perfect candidate - Ukraine-raised US citizen with a great job "easy on the eyes" or so they say. it doesn't feel right to be taking advantage of oppressed women without any opportunities, as well as, marrying them after 3-6 months of knowing each other.... You need to be really f u king macho and I mean more macho than any macho man you know. This setting up of the demand beforehand is utter bs and i can't believe guys are putting up with it. This setting up of the demand beforehand is utter bs and i can't believe guys are putting up with it. Besides, I can only talk from experience, not ALL women are like I described.

All that made me spoiled and pickier about the looks and now I just have no interest in local suburbia women. I think there are maybe 1 out of 20 girls I find barely attractive. In Ukraine, if your woman gets offended by a man in public, you are REQUIRED to immediately bloody your fists or else she will never talk to you again and let all her friends know you're a serious pathetic western puss. There are some fat ugly ones, independent ones, etc., but in general they are more like I described than not...

IMHO its quite worth the price and you can't blame them for it.

The financial condition in Ukraine is horrible, its almost a 3rd world country in that regard (if not already).

What i am saying is that this selection plays AGAINST men.

It ****s us over, and the more guys care about women, ironically, the least women care about them because the odds are stacked on their side and hypergamy fuels them to enforce higher standards Dude, they are dream-come-true wives.I recently went back for 3 months and LOADS of women want to get married to move the hell out of that country, making me a perfect candidate - Ukraine-raised US citizen with a great job "easy on the eyes" or so they say. it doesn't feel right to be taking advantage of oppressed women without any opportunities, as well as, marrying them after 3-6 months of knowing each other....All that made me spoiled and pickier about the looks and now I just have no interest in local suburbia women. I think there are maybe 1 out of 20 girls I find barely attractive.v=5s IAIUz Ac-g How do you lower your standards after that???Super hot girls in Odessa go on beaches topless and sometimes fully naked.Besides, after going there and getting ripped off, you'll also become "shallow", except that you will be rejected by the wonderful garden of the Ukraine. It ****s us over, and the more guys care about women, ironically, the least women care about them because the odds are stacked on their side and hypergamy fuels them to enforce higher standards You confuse tradition and culture.